The myth of ‘de-radicalizing’ Islamic radicals – Column in The Toronto Sun

“De-radicalization, I told the senators, was just an empty meaningless word … To ask ‘former radicals’ to de-radicalize radical Islamists is like asking Marxists to convert Communists into liberal democrats,” I told the committee.”

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November 26, 2014

Tarek Fatah
The Toronto Sun

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Canada’s Parliament

On Monday, I appeared before the Senate Standing Committee on National Security and Defence. The committee is studying the question of security threats to Canada as well as ‘de-radicalization’ efforts being promoted by the RCMP.

I suggested to the senators that ‘de-radicalization’ initiatives by Canada’s security agencies were doomed to failure because the very men and women partnering with the RCMP in this exercise were not just part of the problem, but in many ways the cause of radicalization.

For example, in mosques across Canada, our Friday congregation begins with a prayer to Allah for a victory of Muslims over the kufaar (Christians, Jews and Hindus). In such a climate, relying on Islamic religious clerics and Islamists to fight radicalization is like employing the fox to guard the chicken coop.

[Transliteration of the prayer in Arabic: “…AAanna waighfir lana wairhamna anta mawlana faonsurna AAala alQawmi al-Kafireena.”]

[Translation of the prayer in English by Pickthall: “…Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us VICTORY over the disbelieving folk [Kufaar].”]

Some senators looked at me with incredulity, taken aback by what I had said.

I suggested to the senators that some Islamic clerics are taking us for a ride. For example, a Canadian cleric, a white convert to Islam who is touted as a ‘de-radicalization counsellor’ by the RCMP, was last week in the Gulf Emirate of Qatar, holding meetings with the leadership of the Taliban.

On his Facebook page, this RCMP de-radicalization counsellor wrote:

“I am meeting with the head of the Taliban Embassy in Doha, Qatar and we are working on a treaty that would state clearly that the Taliban (Mujahideen) don’t condone vigilante violence, criminal acts or terrorism in non-Muslim countries.”

De-radicalization, I told the senators, was just an empty meaningless word. The real challenge was to prevent radicalization and this required confronting the rhetoric of political Islam rather than appeasing those who fanned religiosity and made Muslims believe their first loyalty was to Islam, not their community of fellow Canadians and Canada.

“To ask ‘former radicals’ to de-radicalize radical Islamists is like asking Marxists to convert Communists into liberal democrats,” I told the committee.

It also seemed the senators were surprised to hear that, contrary to conventional wisdom, most Muslim Canadians do not consider their mosque imams to be their community leaders. In fact, most Muslims are not linked to any mosque whatsoever.

One senator asked, if not the clerics, who were the real leaders of the community?

She seemed surprised when I said “members of parliament” and those elected to lead us.

The challenge, I said, is to prevent radicalization and the way to do so was to:

1. Lay hate speech charges against any Muslim cleric who hides behind religious rights as he attacks and demonizes other religious faiths or people of no faith at all.

2. Every mosque must be monitored for such hate speech where the word ‘kuffar’ is invoked to hide the real target — Hindus, Christians and Jews.

3. Any mosque indulging in active politics must have its charitable status revoked.

4. Donations of more than $20 at all religious institutions must be made by cheque or credit card to cut off the possibility of money laundering.

5. Ally with anti-Islamist Muslims from among the victims of Islamist oppression — the Kurds, Baloch, Darfuris and Iranian exiles.

6. Treat the PKK (Kurdish Workers Party) and the MeK (Iranian Resistance) as allies, not adversaries.

And finally I recommended that immigration from Pakistan, Somalia, Iran, Iraq and Syria must be suspended until Canada can be assured that security documents, identity papers and university degrees cannot be bought on the black market or from state agencies.


 

Liberal Senator gets upset, wags his finger at me for criticising Islamists. Insinuates that I am an ‘Islamophobe’

My straightforward talk did not go well wit Liberal Party Senator Grant Mitchell who tried to insinuate that I was an Islamophobe. He then tried to put words in my mouth, at which point I had to set the record as well as the sad senator straight.

Here is a two-minute exchange between a Dhimmi and a Desi. You be the judge.

The prayer I refer to in my exchange is uttered by the Imam leading the Friday congregation, right across the world in every mosque. It specifically mentions Muslim victory over the ‘Qaum al-Kafireen,’ i.e., non-Muslims. Here it is:

Transliteration of the Arabic:
“…AAanna waighfir lana wairhamna anta mawlana faonsurna AAala alQawmi al-Kafireena.”

Here is the translation in English by Pickthall:
“Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us VICTORY over the disbelieving folk [Kufaar].”

 

5 comments for “The myth of ‘de-radicalizing’ Islamic radicals – Column in The Toronto Sun

  1. Pip Power
    November 26, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    ‘De-radicalizing’ Islamic Radical Perverts’

    ISLAMIC CLERIC CONFIRMS ALL SUNI MUSLIM MEN ARE SODOMITES

    You know how some people insult Muslims by calling them crude names that are the equivalents of sodomites and bestialists (butt- and goat-f**kers)? It turns out at least the sodomite insult is true! We have it straight from the mouth of none other than a Muslim cleric — a London-based Shiite cleric named Yasser Habib.

    ‘PERFUMED GARDEN’

    by Abu Nuwas:

    O the joy of sodomy!
    So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
    Turn not away from it–
    therein is wondrous pleasure.
    Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
    twisting on his temple
    and ride as he stands like some gazelle
    standing to her mate.
    A lad whom all can see girt with sword
    and belt not like your whore who has
    to go veiled.
    Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
    very best to mount them, for women are
    the mounts of the devils

    THIS IS REAL MOHAMMEDANISM:

    Surah 8:69: “But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good.” (Yusuf Ali)

    ISLAMIC Q&A, ONLINE WITH MUFTI EBRAHIM DESAI, SOUTH AFRICA, ‘ASK THE IMAM’:

    “It may, superficially, appear distasteful to copulate with a woman who is not a man’s legal wife, but once Shariah makes something lawful, we have to accept it as lawful, whether it appeals to our taste, or not; and whether we know its underlying wisdom or not.”

    ALL SUNNI MUSLIMS ARE SODOMITES

    Satan Attends Every Childbirth; He Touches Every Infant Except for Mary and her Son Jesus, all babies cry during their birth, because Satan touches them… (Sahih Bukhari, 4.55.641)

    Whenever a child is born, Satan pricks it; that is why the child cries. Only Mary and Jesus were not pricked by Satan…(Sahih Muslim, 30.5837, 5838)

    Say prayer during sexual intercourse, and Satan will not touch your child…(Sahih Bukhari, 4.54.503

    ALL SUNNI MUSLIMS FINGER FC-KED BY SATAN AT BIRTH

    In a broadcast on the UK’s Fadak TV on May 24, 2012, Habib calmly and dispassionately asserts that all non-Shiite males — especially the Shiites’ Muslim rivals, the Sunnis — are sodomized at birth by the devil, and grow up to become “passive homosexuals”, i.e., the “bottom” of a homosexual pair who is penetrated in anal sex.

    Islamic cleric confirms Muslim men really are sodomites.

    You know how some people insult Muslims by calling them crude names that are the equivalents of sodomites and bestialists (butt- and goat-f**kers)? It turns out at least the sodomite insult is true! We have it straight from the mouth of none other than a Muslim cleric — a London-based Shiite cleric named Yasser Habib.

    In a broadcast on the UK’s Fadak TV on May 24, 2012, Habib calmly and dispassionately asserts that all non-Shiite males — especially the Shiites’ Muslim rivals, the Sunnis — are sodomized at birth by the devil, and grow up to become “passive homosexuals”, i.e., the “bottom” of a homosexual pair who is penetrated in anal sex.

    TRANSCRIPTION OF YASSER HABIB:

    “Anyone who consents to being called ‘Emir of the Believers’ is a passive homosexual. Omar Ibn Al-Khattab, for example, who willingly assumed this title, was, without a doubt, a passive homosexual. The same goes for the caliphs Othman Ibn Affan, Muawiyya, Yazid, and the rules and sultans of the Umayyad and Abbasid dynasties, as well as some of the rulers and sultans of our day and age.

    For example, the king of Morocco bears this title. This is how you know that he is a passive homosexual. This is in addition to the evidence revealed by Western media, which showed that the current king of Morocco is indeed a passive homosexual who belongs to the homosexual community. This was leaked from his palace by his assistants, his servants, and his ‘boys,’ whom he would penetrate and who would penetrate him. They fled to Europe, sought asylum, and exposed all this.

    Cleric Yasser Habib exposes Kalifa Umar as a Sodomite

    It is told (in the hadith) that Umar Ibn Al-Khattab had an anal disease, which could be cured only by semen. One should know that this is a well-known medical condition, which is also mentioned in sacred texts. Someone who, God forbid, has been penetrated in the anus, a worm grows within him, due to the semen discharged in him…
    A disease develops in his anus, and as a result, he cannot calm down, unless. he is penetrated again and again.

    The Shiites are undoubtedly protected from this disease, and from committing this abominable and hideous act. As for the Nasibis (who hated the prophet Muhammad’s family), they are definitely afflicted with this homosexuality.
    One of the devils is present at the birth of every human being. If Allah knows that the newborn is one of our Shiites, He fends off that devil, who cannot harm the newborn. But if the newborn is not one of our Shiites, the devil inserts his index finger into the anus of the newborn, who thus becomes a passive homosexual. If the newborn is not a Shiite, the devil inserts his index finger into this newborn’s anus, and when he grows up, he becomes a passive homosexual.

    If the newborn is a female, the devil inserts his index finger into her vagina, and she becomes a whore. At that moment, the newborn cries loudly, as he comes out of his mother’s womb. Note that some children cry normally at birth, while others cry loudly and incessantly. You should know that this is the work of that devil, according to this narration.”

    Islam is NOT a religion, but an insane political system and sex cult populated by the severely mentally impaired.”

    When cleric Yasser Habib “says ‘passive homosexual’, he is referring to the receptive, submissive, female-equivalent partner. Dominant, inserting male homosexual activity is universally accepted in Islam. He has no problem with that. It’s grown men ‘catching’ that he has a problem with.”

  2. November 27, 2014 at 5:24 AM

    Not islamist but islam is problem .u r not enough dare to say this.

  3. November 27, 2014 at 5:32 AM

    Well mr. Fatah u r not adressing real problem of islam.u r only blaming it to islamist but not find out real cause of this radicalism.The so called holly books kuran and sharia are the root of islamic terrorism.Even that muhammad was a real terrorist.who had taught such radicle.

  4. Sheila
    November 27, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Dear PM Harper, very urgent. Please look at the following prophecies before it’s too late:
    http://theyflyblog.com/2014/11/24/urgent-another-prophecy-fulfilling/

    Please consider the following from Meier’s 1958 Letter:

    “83.) And it will be that the fanatical Islamist’s bloody revenge on the distant descendants of the Christians, for the earlier crucifixions by the Christians, will come into being when they accomplish their deadly and destructive acts through irrepressible terror all over the world.”
    …which also should serve to point out that even the “new” information that the Plejaren present to Meier on this situation, and others, is often actually already known to him. Maybe we can understand that there’s a very good, ancient reason why he’s the prophet of the New Time.

    NOTE: I just received the following translation of an article by Mariann Uehlinger from Patric Chenaux at FIGU in Switzerland. It was specifically requested by Billy Meier that I post it immediately. I have also written back requesting further information on how the recommended forceful actions to stop the IS should be taken.
    The best possible way, i.e. using the Global Peace-Combat troops, is of course not available to humankind, or such things as are now going on would have already been long suppressed.

    Please also note that Meier already published this warning, in the Henoch Prophecies, in 1987:

    “And it will be that the fanatics of Islam will rise up against the countries of Europe and all will shake and quiver. Everything in the West will be destroyed; England will be conquered and thrown down to the lowest level of misery. And the fanatics and warriors of Islam will retain their power for a long time. However, not only Europe will be affected but ultimately all the countries and peoples of the Earth, as the great horror expands to a war that will encompass the entire world.”

  5. MALLIKARJUNA
    November 27, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    I think Islam is a religion of war and not of peace. That is the problem. And war is also the medieval war with all its bitterness, tooth for tooth, eye for eye, blood debt, etc. notions. Even prisoners of war and treating them with dignity and humanity seems to be absent and they placed at the mercy of and could be slaughtered at the whim of the conquerors. That ideology is carried over to this day and that’s why horrible outfits like ISIS, Boko Haram, etc. are committing gory atrocities.

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